Sunday, October 23, 2011

[Kalyanam] Boy / 25 / BTech / Chennai

 

Dear Parents,
 
Open invitation to parents of suitable brides for  Iyer Vathima boy with Tamil Iyer father(Vathima) having Kerala background but settled in Chennai (now working at Jamshedpur) & Tamil Iyer mother(Ashtasahasram) Mumbai born & brought up & settled in Chennai (now residing at Jamshedpur). Permanent address is at Chennai with own flat.
 
Boy is just 25 years ( 8th July 1986), Pooyam (Poosam) - 1st Paadam, B.Tech in Comupter Science & Engineering, 5' 6" (167 Cms) tall, working as Systems Engineer in TCS at Chennai.
 
Horoscope matching required. No addtional conditions.
 

Gopalan.P  & Padmavathi Gopalan

{General Manager & Chief Development Engineer (in a TATA - HITACHI JV Company)},

Telcon R&D

Telco Construction equipment Co. Ltd.

Jamshedpur - 831 010

Ph: 0657 - 6512923

Mob: 9234551720.

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[Kalyanam] Parents of prospective brides - responses (2)

 

Dear Members -
 
We have seen different points of view on this topic. In general, everybody agrees that mutual respect is the first step in starting a relationship between families.
 
Since we haved debated this topic at length (including this set of responses), we shall not proceed further with this topic in this forum. Hope everyone appreciate the point.
 
/ Moderator
 
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Well, as parent of a girl, and reading through the posts of prospectives bridegrooms parents, I pity and feel sad to tell, that there are parents who have refused the
proposal of my daughter for they dont want to the girl to study further or she is not a software engineer, etc. Why are the grooms parents writing only negative aspects they are coming across or are not able to accept the change that is happenings with the SHAKTI AGE taking the turn....? 
 
Has anyone thought of the situation two decades back when the grooms side had upper hand and had made the brides parents dance to their tunes ?  Do they really
want to even now stamp brides under their legs ?  It is the reward of their own action that the ratio of females have reducedwith that of males.  Ask them to take a statistics of how many female feotus was aborted 20 to 25 years ago, how many daughters in law were cursed and ill treated for not begetting a son ?   Little did they realise then that a day wouold come when they have to requesting for a girl for their son.....
 
Keeping all actions and reactions in mind, let there be no bias of bride or groom... when you walk on the road, there are ups and downs.... best is learn to forget the incidences that did not suit you and walk your life, not blaming brides parents or grooms parents..atleast now, wake up all parents and look at your children as a child not as a boy or girl...
 
Explanations and blame game can go on and on with examples of misbehaviour from both sides.  What we got to learn is ignore the unwanted happenings and move ahead and look for a partner for your child ..no matter a bride or groom come to this level of understanding and I am sure you will find your suitable match, without fail.
 
Sulochana Mohan sumoshee@gmail.com
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I am in this group from past 2 year. Initially I joined to find a suitable partner, now from past one and half year I am just continuing to update the latest demand from girls side. Not fully blaming them then also they have a huge responsibility for this current situation, earlier all fighted against for the "dowry" me also told my parents to search and find a girl and we should not ask even 1 rupee also. But becz of huge demand from girls side , I am realising only huge dowry system can control this bargaining situation.

Apart from this I have few serious questions, I hope somebody can answer for this.

1) If our society not accepting us then is it necessary to stay and sacrifice our life for neglecting community ?

2) I am still unmarried becz lot of other dream and ambitions, so not worried, but Once I settled I will seriously think that is it necessary to choose only brahmin girl ?

3) All need well settled. If well settled then marriage is not necessary we know how to run the life peacefully once after settled well.

4) Once I got reply from the parents of girl that my daughter salary is higher than ur salary, so later it will create problems in life. I simply replied once reaching ur daughter salary will give reply. They thinking we marrying money, who need their salary, let themm keep it, but dont bargain with money while marriage come, if its from boy side or girl side its really stupdity.

5) Now telling all un married boys, you all have open doors in other community, and if you still need brahmin girl, wait a bit more, you will get the same girl after sometime with innocent divorcee label.

6) Parents are playing crucial role here, not blaming them but there is a limitation for considering the marriage as a business deal. 

7) Forget all, think about vadhyar community, they are not getting girls, if they marry other varna they will loose their job too. If the things will move like this within short period of time government can keep a "poonul wearing stuffed body" in the museum to tel the coming generation that some years back a community called brahmin existed in this country.

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I too sincerely agree with the views expressed by few of following interested parents or friends.  These days though the percentagewise girls are short in numbers, they are very chooosy as well because of the reasons given below. They (the girls) are even very particular in the height of the 'groom.
 
I had my personal experience in this regard.  One girls h/cope agreed and both my son and the girl did inter-act few times. V both side parents were very happy from the views of both girl and boy that they gave their green singnal to further proceed in the matter.After 2 - 3 days my son got an email fm the girl expressing her views that she is not able to consider since according to her my son is 1 cm shorter than the girl, i.e. the girl is 169 cms and my son is 168 cms. Thus further proceedings on this were put an end to it. When I talked to her parents, they opined that she is the only daughter of theirs n hence they do not want to go against her wish.  Such kind of attitudes should also be given up by the boys and girls since girls/boys should realise as to how much both side parents are worried for such silly issues.
 
Thanks for having given an opportunity to express my views as well in this.
 
S. RAMAKRISHNAN/BANGALORE
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I definitely agree with some of the members who have narrated the plight of the Palghat/Tamil Iyer Grooms & family. Father of a bride is a puppet, mother is the supreme power and the girl - Almighty. They want to know height, weight, colour, blood group, food habit, income, family,  so on & so forth. This is ruining the stature of the community.  Is being a Gentleman not a trait to be proud of ?  Bride earning a paltry Rs 4,000/- is demanding a groom with professional qualification  and Rs 50,000/-. You can visit ssmatri.net to get an idea of the psedo brahmin demands.  My earnest request to these bride group is to be reasonable, as there will be a time when you will have no identity of your own to call in the not so distant future.
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I am looking for my daughter's marriage for more than three years.
The problems that u had written is 100% correct.
The innocent boys wearing simple pant and shirt and girls dress code and the hair styles and the westen outlooks having drinks and smoking and roaming with boys is now a days seen on front of us.
God please Help.
Thank u
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Brahmins have no salvation until they come out of the delusions concerning costly silksarees,golden ornaments,seer bakshanam etc.More importance should be given to family values,culture leave alone the religious aspect of every marriage.TV and cinema have taken their toll on our community also as our girls presume that their husbands should have features of salman khan,sharukh khan or any other khan.Marriage is a big business and every body plays safely looting the parents.When communities like marwaris share the marriage expenses in our community the entire burden rests on bride side which is not desirable.Boy side also should voluntarily submit their share of money and responsibility and ensure that marriage ends in success.

sivaramanramachandraniyer@gmail.com
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I being one of the officials of Kerala Brahmana Sabha wish to tell the following.

I am saravanan, aged 32 years employed in a Public Limited Company as Junior Executive-Secretarial. My parents are looking for a giirl for me for the past 4 or five years, but nothing has so far not materialised. I do not know what is wrong with me or people like us. Only, if we are pointed out what is wrong, efforts can be taken for correcting it

So far, I think the community has not changed. In the brahmin community itself, there are thousands of sub castes like chozhia, vadama etc and a number of Gotrhrams.

So I appeal to all the members particularly parents to ignore this vadama/ chozhia. If this exercise is started, at least we can reduce the number of chronic bachelors like me. In fact, in the Annual General Meeting of Kerala Brahmana Sabha, we have voiced this thing. How far it is going to be, it needs to be ascertained.

The parents of girls should think. Every coin has twp sides. In Bangalore itself, I read in Vanitha one year or back about ladies visiting pubs and Bars including Beer parlours. All this because of the attitude of parents of girs. If they make a right step in the direction, by initiating Hindu culture at the childhood istelf, it would not have happened.

I humbly request all the members to ponder over the issue.

saravanan
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The real position in our community no body can identify.
One side is,the parents with earning girl, they are put one maximum standard for boys, even if the standard was comes closer,the parents put flame on astrologer. the parents has not ready to lose the earnings, i have talk more than 1000 girls side no body has to answer properply all the parents has said if suits we will call you.
 
On the other hand the parents is very poor and not able to perform the marriage, they have also not ready to open mounth and if they explain their real position to the boys side, the boy side given suitable marriage guidence.
 
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I am aged 39 years.I am a graduate and working for a publishing company in the marketing department.I am looking for a bride for the past 7 years.Looking at the current situation I have lost interest in marriage and I am even thinking of staying single for the rest of my life.
Unless girls and their parents change their out look about the bridegroom situation is not going to improve.

K.Chidambaranath,Madurai

kchidambaranath@yahoo.com
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It is perfectly true--the bargain is from the girl's side--they want a toy as a husband--not a life partner
  they are not willing to give him equal status for, they are either a Phd., professor or scientist--they
 are less human than most of the boys waiting to get a life partner. they count on age difference,
 location of job, status etc.than  looking for family values and adherence to our heritage
  WHEN WILL THIS END ?

   vaidyanathan
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I am father of bride:

I have one daugter only my daughter is professionally qualified.  Bridegrooms should understand that they are equal partners.  They should also agree to treat and give respect to girl's parents as their own parents.  They should not think that they have upper hand because they are bridegroom and their parents are superior than girls' parents.  Girls' parents are also taking so much difficulties and sacrificing many things to bring their daughter up and to make her study.  This point should also to be appreciated by bridgegroom and their parents.  In our community all the expenses to be borne by bride's family and the parent has to spend his lifelong earning for getting his daughter married.  So Bridegroom's parents should also come forward and to be reasonable and to contribute equal amount for marraige.

They (including bridegroom) should not treat Bride's parents as inferior.

Regards

metazinc@yahoo.com
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[Kalyanam] Boy / 33 / MS (USA) / Malaysia

 

Alliance invited from unmarried, pure South Indian Brahmin female only for Malaysian boy.

Boy's name: Vigneswar
Date of birth: 4 August 1978
Star: Ayilyam
Gothram: Kashyapam
Vedam: Yajur
Subcaste: Brahacharanam
Qualification: Bachelor's & Masters from US university.

Boy's family are Palakkad Iyers. He is unmarried and has 2 brothers, one brother married. Father deceased, mother living. Currently he is employed in a local private institution. Having lived in the US for 7 years, he is familiar with the environment there also. Main, serious interest is theory and practice of carnatic music and dance music and is particularly keen on rare compositions. Other interests are gardening, reading etc.

Girl should be similarly qualified and share boy's interests. She should also be a responsible householder.

Contact:

S Subramaniam
18 Jalan SS5C/5
Kelana Jaya
47301 Petaling Jaya
Selangor Darul Ehsan
Malaysia

e-mail: scorpion_pj@hotmail.com or you can also reply this message.

Horoscope and photo on exchange basis only, so interested parties please send yours first.

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[Kalyanam] Boy / 33 / MBA / Melbourne

 

     Dear Sir,
 
Can you please send the following message to all the members. Thanks in advance.
 
 
We are looking for an alliance for our son Chi.K.Kasturirangan,  a Software Engg, working in Melbrourne
                          in Aus. He is 33, 5'.9" tall  MBA,  MS [IT], from South Australian University.He is working as a Proj  Leader
                            in a leading communication Co. We are originally natives of Palghat ,Kerala. now settled in Chennai since the past
                          35 years. We belong to Koundinya Gothram,Brahacharanam. My sons Star is Bharani. .
 
                                            Parants of interested girls /daughters willing to relocate to Australia after marriage, can contact
                                    us by phone /email .   Ph. 044-24919556. Email - radhakjk@dataone.in  or kkrangan@yahoo.com
 
                                    Best Regards, Krishnan.KJK

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Saturday, October 22, 2011

[Kalyanam] Boy / 31 / BTech (IIT), PhD (USA) / Bombay

 

Marriage proposals invited
from Kerala/Tamil Iyer girls` parents
 
 
Name:    Manoj
 
Birth Details:  23 July 1980; 9.24 am; Matunga, Bombay; Bharadwaja Gotham;Anusham;
 
Education:  B.Tech (IIT); Comp.Sc. & Engg.;  PhD, Comp.Sc.(USA)
 
Employment:  Research Scientist, TIFR, Bombay.
 
Ancestoral Origin: Palakkad Iyer, Kerala
 
Profile:        TM ID: M2034250;      http://www.tcs.tifr.res.in/~manoj
 
Contact:     Parents
 
E Mail & Mob:      pv.gopalkrishnan@gmail.com;      9422526002
 
 

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Friday, October 21, 2011

[Kalyanam] Girl / 22 / MSc / Chennai

 

Dear Parents,

Namaskaram.

We are looking for a suitable alliance preferably Kerala Iyer, well qualified, age difference 2 to 3 years with good family background for my daughter Pavithra. Details given below.
Name - Pavithra
Date of birth - 4th March, 1989
Birth star - Utthiradam
Vadamal , Chandilya gothram
Suddha Jathakam
Qualifications - M.Sc in Economics
Employed in banking financial services sector
Tamil matrimony ID - M2431532

Regards,

Narayanan

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011

[Kalyanam] Parents of prospective brides - responses

 

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I am father of prospective bride and find the situation exactly opposite. As such I join Mr  Mani in appealing to all whether belonging to bride or bridegroom's side to please give some reply for any proposal received.
With Regards. to all
M.G.Sarma
 
I agree with u in toto. The problem today (apart from sghortage of girls) is that today's girls are by large highly qualified and gainfully enmployed. Thus they are economically independent. A married llife family is secondary to them and they are "career oriented". Their parents have little say in choosing their partners in life. They have their own whims and fancies while selecting their would be partner. Even if a boy is highly educated (more than the girl)and highly placed in jobs, they tend to reject him on flimsy grounds such as
he is not "social" (meaning mixing with other girls, drinking, late-night partying and other forms of activities - which we consider as bad habits or vices) or that he is conservative of old traditional values visiting temples.
I know of a case where the girl rejected the boy for the simple reason that he applies the holy "vibhuti" on his forehead and visits temples. Even everything comes through and the boy the girl seeing each other agree, the girl's mother is there to prevent the alliance under some excuses or other (probably because after the daughter's marriage, their milking cow will disappear and their income with dwindle.) In most of the cases, the girl's father is a dummy and has no veto power at home. The girls also put such conditions that after marriage the "luggage or garbage" (meaning the boy's parents or grand-parents) should not stay with them. Which self-respecting boy can agree to this atrocious and mean-minded demand? I also know of at least half-a dozen cases where after having rejected good proposals from boys of our own community, the girls have chosen a sardarji, a pillai or even from other religions.
God save our community.
 
I  fully agree with  the  message posted by Mr.rhs_mani on 21st Sep 2011 to the members of " Kalyanm " ( email id: rhs.mani@yahoo.co.in )  with a open heart and without any bias or ambiguity.
 
Now a days it is highly pathetic to note  that brides side has an undue upper hand. Even for live events conducted by some matrimonial organizations the response from brides' side is very poor...it is not even 10%  from girls side...and presence of girls is  not even 1% . I wonder if male female sex ratio would have fallen to that bottom level to have 10% of representatives from girls' side...
Bridegrooms could not evoke a courtesy message even from non professional or non graduate  girls...then you imagine how it could be possible to negotiate with professional graduates ? when such is the case we need not to mention about IT professional brides  who would either prefer bridegroom  with a minimum  salary of Rs.1.5  to 2 million rupees pa with a rider that they should work in US..UK...or  at least in Singapore. We are pretty aware of  what happened to those employed in abroad during US crisis in 2001-2002. Many of them were unable to bear the brunt of rental cost and vacated their houses in the prime localities like T.Nagar, Anna Nagar , Adyar etc., and were driven out to out skirts of Chennai .Same  situation may arise at any time. The recession  has already surfaced in many of the European countries and likely to extend to US once again.
It is quite appropriate to remember how our own relatives and  friends were driven pillar to post when they were seeking marriage alliance for their daughters/ girls before 7 years.

I conclude with a request to brides side that please do not try to exploit the current pathetic situation that raised because of a sudden fall in the sex ratio...Be realistic and be courteous to respond at least
whether you accept or reject the proposal.
I express my view for the sake of millions of parents of bridegrooms who curse themselves for having blessed with boys ( they thought like this at the time of birth of their wards)
 
With regards and divine blessings ,

guruji venkatesh
yvchennai@gmail.com
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Nowadays parents of the brides are placing lots of conditions to the groom side.
They seek the groom as though selecting to fill a position of a groom. According
to them, Husband is a vacant post that needs to be fulfilled.   They need the
position to be filled by a brahmin, and he should be educated with IT. Not all
the B.Techs and B.E.s are holding jobs that earns Rs60,000 at the age of
25/28/30. Nowadays not much of Brahmin boys go for MBBS.
I wonder if all the brides who quotes that they need wealthy, highly educated
who earns millions got their spouses as they quoted.
Can any one take a survey how many brahmins earns Rs100,000 per Month, Rs75,000
and so on.
I am also seeing good number of profiles that carries the word, INNOCENT
DIVORCE.
One of my lawyer friend who appears in family court says "There are at least 200
cases pending in the family court for divorce, most of them are forward castes.
They say the groom lied that he earns Rs 100000 per month, but actually he earns
Rs25,000 and I can not manage a family with Rs25,000. A woman lawyer who
appeared for the husband aged 28, said unless a wife control/ manage  a family
within that money, she is unfit to the family life."
One such instance the senior counsel showed a brahmin lady with torn cloths who
said her husband often beat her after consuming liquor and unable to pay the
school fees  to the children and since she belongs to forward community no
scholarship is given to them.
The life has two sides.
One group longing for a meal for a day and other group wish to go to Seven star
hotels and on tour and to spend Rs100,000 per month, and other side wish their
husband to look after her and her children.
Only time will tell the fate, but it will be too late to realize.
 

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